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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

Super informative article by Doc Malik and Roman Bystrianyk to consider, see: Measles Outbreak - Get Vaccinated! Or Not. And Why Is Bobby Recommending Vaccines? https://docmalik.substack.com/p/measles-outbreak-get-vaccinated-or

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JacqNSW's avatar

Measles "modelling" parallels Climate "modelling"; Garbage In Garbage Out "GIGO".

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Aj's avatar

Elizabeth, I can answer your question to RK. It's the same reason all the other vaccines are introduced...to make money for the individuals who hold the shares in these companies who live of the quarterly dividends for eternity at the expense of making society sick, dependant and fearful. No better way than that to control the masses.

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

That does seem to be the straightforward answer...

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Michael Weigang's avatar

Don't they own nearly all the riches already ?

Are they not trying to eliminate a big chunk of earth's population to avoid being uprooted themselves ?

They are no doubt controlling the masses already for a long time or we wouldn't be in that mess right now !!!

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

RFK Jr. urges people to get vaccinated:

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/03/kennedy-jr-measles-outbreak-vaccine

From the linked article:

"Vaccines not only protect individual children from measles, but also contribute to community immunity, protecting those who are unable to be vaccinated due to medical reasons," Kennedy wrote.

Yes, but: Kennedy emphasized that the decision to vaccinate is "a personal one." "

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I consider this a betrayal of what RFK Jr led us to believe his true convictions are. Didn't he assure us he doubted the safety and effectiveness of all vaccines due to their scientifically misleading drug trials? Was he sincere in his prior support of the many parents who believe the MMR shots were a contributing factor to their child's Autism?

Just substitute the word "covid" for the word "measles" in RFK Jr's statement above and we're back to Biden-era vaccine policy.

Calling the decision to vaccinate a "personal one" after stating an individual is protecting the community and the immunocompromised is equivalent to suggesting a child unvaccinated for measles may be killing their classmate or their immunocompromised grandma. The logical conclusion from RFK Jr's excuse for promoting measles vaccination during a small outbreak would be to lockdown or quarantine the unvaccinated children.

I consider this a huge disappointment in RFK Jr's first test of leadership in public health.

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

Yes, it's pretty tricky Kathleen...

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is not qualified to promote vaccine products...and that's what he's doing.

Vaccines... They're in a category all their own, with all and sundry taking it upon themselves to insist other people submit to these medical interventions.

There's RFK Jr. making statements to millions of people, promoting these products...is he the one obtaining valid voluntary informed consent for the intervention?

Seems like no-one is actually doing that at all...

There is no valid consent.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

(By the way, who is the man in profile illustrated in your profile picture?)

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Paul Seamons's avatar

RFK is just showing his true self,he has said that he believes in vaccines, we should have believed him.

He's just another part of the globalist gang.

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

It's going to be interesting to see what happens going forwards...

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Amat's avatar

Vaccination has become an authoritarian threatening "health" action whereby individual consent is slowly being crushed along with choice and the order to be vaccinated could eventually be enforced if it is allowed to continue. Vaccination is an endless lucrative playground for public health and the drug companies where they get to cite it is done for the "greater good" so they conveniently ignore morals, ethics plus informed consent, covid was the perfect example in compliance of the masses in this mindset. I know a few people who would have cheerfully watched me being held down for a covid injection, for my own good of course.

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

Yes Amat, in practice, individual consent was crushed...

Did the powers that be forget about the vaccinating practitioners' obligation to obtain valid voluntary informed consent for vaccination?

I think they did...

And now there's no valid voluntary informed consent for vaccination, because that's not possible under mis/disinformation/lies, and coercion and mandates.

So there's no valid consent.

I wonder what that will mean when people realise this?

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

But notice how Ladapo won't ever stop the con-vid shots in Florida.

Another guy who talks a lot of stuff but never uses his power.

They're all scumbags.

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

Vaccination...it's one helluva battleground...

But 'Covid' has opened a very big crack.

Our job now to try and make the best of it, shine the spotlight on the ever-increasing 'womb to tomb' vaccination schedule.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

I'm just shocked that it took this long to happen.

It gave me no comfort to know that vaccines were dangerous decades ago.

Despite the proof, people were so lazy or stupid to fathom the issues.

These days, I understand why. It was a cult behavior.

Vaccination is a religious ritual of the church of Scientism. 😂

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

There are massive forces protecting the Church of Vaccination.

Discussion has been shut down for years.

But this means no-one has been properly informed about diseases/illnesses and vaccine products, which means anyone who has been injected under mis/disinformation and coercion/mandates hasn't given valid consent.

There's NO VALID CONSENT.

Think about that...

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Brendaria Harvey's avatar

In the days prior to the internet, finding information on the truth of any drug/vaccine was not available. As someone who was born and raised in New York, I can assure you that we were lied to about everything. Where could we go to get truthful information? In the 1970s we were in the grip of a Satanic control system led by the the Governor of NY, a Rockefeller!) Things were so bad that I left my country to live in England and I am here still. The bad followed me here, but England was not my country, so the betrayal did not hurt so much.

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Brendaria Harvey's avatar

When we took our precious 13month old son for his MMR vaccination, we specifically asked the clinician about the safety of the vaccine. we were told it was 100% safe. Within days, he deteriorated from being a vibrant toddler to a non-thriving one (clinician's assessment). It took us 20 years to turn around the damage caused by the "safe" vaccine. So, the question is: if the vaccine is so safe and necessary, why lie about it? I look around at the carnage of the MMR shots, compared to the reality of measles in my generation and there is no comparison. We used to have measles parties to get it over with in our community in order to protect pregnant mothers! Our parents did a much better job for us than we did for our son. We have to live with that for the rest of our lives. I am full of gratitude for Dr Andrew Wakefield, whose research (denigrated by the UK government) helped us to save our son. But, we will never lose the anger and pain that we live with as parents who made such an egregious trespass against our son. Our lack of knowledge, our trust in the medical community nearly killed our child. We will live forever with the question: what would he be like now if we had never given him that poison??

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Thumbnail Green's avatar

Great letter to RFK jn. Politics is a knife fight I do hope he takes a step forward after this backwards step

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Jane varey's avatar

Surely, once you know there are no natural viruses IE in nature . That is they all have been made in a laboratory . Because no VIRUS ( from the greek to mean TOXIN ) is not derived from nature ) so it can't exist except in a laboratory. What we are experiencing in the form of symptoms is toxicity . From the crap , sorry poisons toxins in our air, water , food supply, cosmetics, supplements, etc etc . That again have been added to make us all ill , and keep us in a forever need of their more toxic and deadly remedies of injections .

There are however in nature natural bacteria and fungi, that try their best to protect our bodies and our beautiful eco system safe and in harmony with our natural organic selves and the earth it's forna and fauna .

Germ theory is just that a theory , and a facial one at that. To believe that their are germs out there that are waiting to jump into us to cause us harm. Goes against the natural order of nature. Terrain Theory however works with us and all of nature. All is about balance. And when we are out of balance . Usually for toxicity . IE physical , emotional, psychological . We produce symptoms, our bodies way of showing us where the dis-ease lies, so we can remedy it. With say , Homeopathic , plant , flower , gem essence remedies. Or eliminating toxins from our life, by using these holistic therapies... Sound energy vibration therapies working with us , with nature with floa and fauna.

The pharmaceutical, both for human and animal use , agricultural gmo , glyphosate industries . Need to be wiped of the face of the earth, Like the parasitic , Cananite Baal worshippers they all are

Xxx

What have we done today, to make us feel proud

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

I look at things from the perspective that much of the diseases/illnesses vaccinated against don't seem to be a serious risk for most people - so what justifies these mass population interventions?

I'm looking at this from a political point of view, particularly people being lied to about the threat of diseases/illnesses and the effectiveness of vaccine products, and being coerced/mandated to submit to the interventions, violating valid voluntary informed consent.

It's not my job to argue about germ theory / terrain theory, I leave that to others who specialise in this area.

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Jane varey's avatar

I don't believe you need to be a specialist in either firms , it's common sense to me . I've practised Honeopathy for nineteen years as well as constantly learning about dis ease , whether it be external , internal, psychological, spiritual or a mixture of all .

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Michael Weigang's avatar

Hi Elizabeth -

I give you that , it's not your job to argue germ/terrain , but are you really not trying to figure for yourself ?

Would your persistence , your qualifications to dig and persevere in facts not act as a spear , a sharpened sword ?

Endless millions of dollars up for grabs to prove viruses and the germ theory...

NO takers !!! Only FAKERS !!!

So far , the great hope Kennedy Jr. is being just as heinous as the crimes he was meant to lay bare to the Peoples - Shame - Shame - Shame

When will him and Trump sign a decree to ban polluting the skies via chemical warfare today???

When will the Peoples disown Nestle and Coca-Cola instead of letting them threaten the entire Earth to turn off the water tap ???

Where is the informed consent for that ???

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Brendaria Harvey's avatar

Superbly stated. Thank you!

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

As I understand, the majority of cases in the U.S. are attributable to the vaccine itself (which can be differentiated in the lab from the wild version) or are brought in by those traveling abroad or by residents of other nations coming here.

https://merylnass.substack.com/p/i-clarify-the-associated-press-article

"Measles is STILL considered eliminated by the WHO and world community. Eliminated in this context means there is no regular spread. The disease is not endemic. It is present only during brief outbreaks. It cannot be entirely eliminated unless you stop people entering the US.—Nass"

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Jane varey's avatar

There is , NO WILD VERSION.....

ONLY TOXINS IN FOOD , WATER, AIR, PHARMACEUTICALS, PHARMA OWNED SIPPLEMENTS, GLYPHOSATES, PESTOCIDES, HERBICIDES , FUNGICIDES, SLS , PEGS, PCBS IN OKASTICS , EMFS ETC , ETC , THETE ARE NO NATURALLY DERIVED VIRUSES ,NONE HAVE EVER BERN ISOLAYED ......THERE ARE ONLY WILD NATURAL BACTERIA & FUNGI. WHICH IN THEIR TIGHTFUL PLACE IN NATURE SND IN OUR BODIES ARE ALL BENEFICISL TO HIMSN , PLSNT SMD ANIMAL LIFE .......

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Brendaria Harvey's avatar

Remove all corporations from Earth, leaving behind only a natural environment, and what would our world look like? We have become so conditioned by politics, religion, corrupt academia, pharmaceutical corporate power etc that we cannot imagine life in a natural state! But, we must try because it is what we must manifest if we hope to survive as a species.

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Stephen Due's avatar

RFK Jr does about face when gains office? Should this be the headline? I thought he was totally opposed to vaccines, alleging they cause autism and do NOT contribute to population health.

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

For the avid pro-vaxxers, measles vaccination is their big ticket item, it's been entrenched for years, and is central to the Andrew Wakefield saga, which has really bedded in the hostility towards anyone questioning vaccination.

Agree with you it's startling to see RFK Jr so pro-vaccination, but he's always maintained a double standard, it's a fraught area.

I suggest the way ahead now is to challenge HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., put evidence before him he is not able to ignore.

My goal is an examination of the entire 'womb to tomb' vaccination schedule, which is mired in conflicts of interest, along with an investigation into vaccinating practitioners' violation of voluntary informed consent for vaccination.

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Brendaria Harvey's avatar

Totally agree!

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

He's probably being a cuck like he did for Israel.

Easiest way to flip a coward, hurt their fee fees.

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Greg Eldefonso's avatar

RFK Jr. Backs Measles Vaccine Without Explaining Recent Outbreak Followed Free MMR Jab Campaign

Fails to mention measles jab contains live virus created through gain-of-function engineering subject to bioweapons rules.

https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/rfk-jr-backs-measles-vaccine-without?utm_campaign=email-post-title&utm_medium=email

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Allen's avatar

There are two MMR vaccines available for use in the United States, M-M-R II and PRIORIX.

M-M-R-II (Merck) licensed based on a trial with no placebo control & 42 days of safety review after injection in a trial with a total of only 834 children of which a third developed gastrointestinal issues and a third respiratory issues.This deficient underpowered, unblinded, and non-randomized trial is unsurprisingly not even listed in the safety section of M-M-R-II’s package insert. The original MMR’s clinical trial was similarly deficient and also showed a high and concerning rate of gastrointestinal, respiratory and other issues as compared to the small untreated control group.

Priorix (GSK) licensed based on trials with no placebo control (M-M-R-II used as the control) & 6 months of safety review after injection in which both vaccine groups had a high rate of serious adverse events, emergency room visits, and new onset of chronic diseases- e.g., autoimmune disorders, asthma, type I diabetes, vasculitis, celiac disease, thrombocytopenia, and allergies.

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

Thanks Allen.

Have you any links to support your comments.

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

Thanks Allen.

Interesting that RFK Jr. took it upon himself to say "MMR vaccine is crucial to avoiding potentially deadly disease" - it's in his press release.

What is this guy thinking? He has no expertise to make such a statement.

Although I suppose we don't know how much damage has been done by the implementation of a vaccine...against a "self-limiting infection of short duration"...

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Michael Weigang's avatar

Elizabeth ,

do you agree that before any discussion about informed consent can ever succeed , there should be a common consensus about the actual state of affairs , aka , does marshall law apply ? , are x amount of countries or is all of 'presented' Earth under the rule of the so-called UN ?

New 'Acts' are constantly introduced to close more and more 'loopholes' to defend the Truth and real mis/disinformation is used by the foreign government corporation to shut everyone down ,

is everyone waiting to be ruled by a fake AI that isn't even sentient ???

I can only speak for myself and my Family ,

Hit HARDER !!!

PLEASE.

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

So what are you doing?

I can't see any posts by you?

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Michael Weigang's avatar

Elizabeth - didn't mean to offend - I gladly take that punch , :)

You fo the best you do your way , and you are damned good at it !!!

I talk to peoples all over substack , encouraging everyone to come out of their 'shell' , to share knowledge , to dig deeper into diffferent levels of awarenesses , into aspects of which laws or jurisdictions apply , but sadly , mostly I get likes but not a great exchange as to the concensus in regards to the questions I referred to earlier - but like yourself , 'I don't give up' on anything I know to be true - and we all need to carry on to bring justice to the maimed and fallen at bthe careless hand of those evil 'entities'

Looking forward to the day i can be of assistance.

Take care -

may your hard work be rewarded by unexpected positive results !!!

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Jomico's avatar

It’s the combination that causes the problem.Dr Andrew Wakefield worked that out decades ago and the press as always twisted what he was trying to say.Get the egg based vaccines in three separate doses 6 months apart AFTER 12 months of age once the synapses in a newly developing brain begin to grow stronger because doing it too soon melts them apart which is why autism is rife.Aluminium with mercury is the whole problem… and these vaccine makers just don’t care.. make them care whether they keep their freedoms or go to jail… that would be the best way to get the consent to

Compassion and empathy and maybe stop the harm MMR is causing to some… as for MRnA if you haven’t realised just how bad this technology is, your brain is already fried.

Anyone coming into the USA needs to have a at least a measles vaccination .. and any politician who allows people in without ensuring safety needs a lobotomy.

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David White (Oz Dave)'s avatar

It’s still early days. Kennedy cannot afford to display a radical approach to vaccines in general. Ending all genetic injection mandates in the US would be a realistic goal at this stage, since no one in their right mind there will be interested in taking an mRNA shot for anything. This is what Kennedy said in his Fauci and Big Pharma book: https://substack.com/@meshwork3232/note/c-97583557?r=20pd6j&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action Fighting corruption takes time.

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Paul Seamons's avatar

Delusional.

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David White (Oz Dave)'s avatar

What is delusional?

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